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October 2, 1954, Limoges, Haute-Vienne:

Reference for this case: 2-Oct-54-Limoges.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Summary:

The national newspaper Paris-Presse for October 7, 1954, among other observations of October 4, 1954, mentioned "Limoges".

In the newspaper L'Union of Reims for the same October 7, 1954, a little more was said about it: a "tripod saucer" was said to have landed in the garden of Mr. Montagne, an employee of the S.N.C.F., living at 13, rue Ernest-Lavisse in Limoges.

The city with this date then appeared in a list of sightings compiled by Jacques Vallée in 1966; he then indicated in 1969 that according to the newspaper France-Soir for October 7, 1954, it was an object which landed on October 4, 1954 at an unknown hour in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, a railway employee.

As usual, this summary by Jacques Vallée was then copied many times.

However, Christian Peyrat of Limoges, an investigator from the ufology group Lumières Dans La Nuit, who had undertaken to review the French cases of 1954 from Jacques Vallée's catalog, met the witnesses on August 6, 1970, and gathered more information.

First of all, the observation had not taken place on October 4, but on October 2, 1954.

Peyrat reported that the witness, Mr. Montagne, was returning from work at 11:30 p.m., and had just started down Ernest Lavisse Street on his vélosolex. That evening the weather was clear and the full moon was visible.

He had just cut the engine when he saw, in the courtyard across from his home, about 2.5 meters from his house, a powerful light which he immediately interpreted as coming from a car.

He was then at a distance of 70 meters, but the object from which this light came was hidden from view by a one-story house.

Upon reaching his gate, Mr. Montagne turned around and looked at "this car." He barely had time to notice, despite the blinding light, that the car in question was rising into the air with a very faint whistling sound.

He had time to observe, before the object took off, that it was resting on three legs.

Furthermore, the UFO was equipped with powerful headlights, three in number according to the witness: two illuminating his house, and the third directed toward the lower end of Ernest Lavisse Street.

The color emitted by the headlights was very white, "comparable to magnesium."

The witness estimated the diameter of each light source at about 15 cm.

Mr. Peyrat asked the witness whether he had noticed any landing traces. The answer was negative, which was understandable since his courtyard was covered in gravel.

At the moment the craft took off, the witness entered his home, holding his vélosolex by the handlebars; he set it down near the front door of his house and rushed into the bedroom to wake Mrs. Montagne so that she could witness the phenomenon.

Mr. and Mrs. Montagne were only able to observe the flight of the craft heading toward Brive-la-Gaillarde.

Mr. Montagne did not see the change in the craft's direction because at that moment he was inside his house.

The time during which the witness saw the craft on the ground was estimated at about 2 seconds.

During the flight of the UFO, the witness thought the light emitted by the craft appeared clearer.

Furthermore, the witness did not specify whether the lights were fixed.

The craft was at an altitude of about 1,500 meters, and it had the shape of a cone measuring 2.5 meters on each side.

The witness, having suffered from sore eyes, was obliged to consult a doctor.

Mr. Peyrat made a sketch showing the location of the observation:

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This investigation report by Mr. Peyrat lay dormant until the 2010s in the archives of Lumières Dans la Nuit, from where it was then unearthed by the association "SCEAU" (sceau-archives-ovni.org), which is dedicated to preserving ufological documents.

Reports:

[Ref. ppe1:] NEWSPAPER "PARIS-PRESSE":

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Descended from his "saucer" in Loctudy (Finistère)

A MARTIAN, SMALL, HAIRY AND UGLY, TAPPED ON THE SHOULDER
OF A COURAGEOUS BAKERY APPRENTICE

... While in Paris, a cardboard salesman sees a "flying disc" above the Porte Dorée

AGAIN a Martian. Each department will soon have its own. It was in the Finistère that the last specimen of the species appeared. This time, he showed himself without a helmet, with his face uncovered. He was not pretty.

A baker from Loctudy, Mr. Pierre Lucas, saw him disembark yesterday at 4 a.m. in a saucer flying three meters in diameter, in the courtyard of the bakery.

- He was no more than 1 m. 20 tall, he says. He approached me and tapped me on the shoulder with unintelligible words.

"I managed to keep my cool," continues the courageous bakery apprentice. The visitor followed me into the bakery. In the light, I could stare at him. His face was covered with hair and eyes the size of a crow's egg. I called my boss, but the Martian, when he arrived, was already gone. And the saucer was gone."

That same night, a Concarneau beer merchant saw two luminous round tables in the sky, extended by a sort of tail.

In the Nord, one did not see a Martian, but the gendarmes of Beuvry-les-Béthune wrote up a report against a manufacturer of flying saucers. He is a pensioner, named d'Oliveira. He is not Martian, but Portuguese. A whole stock of saucers was found in his attic. In fact, they were paper balloons 1 m. 50 to 5 meters in diameter, and of all colors.

I launched thousands of them, he said. It was so beautiful. In the evening, it looked like fireballs...

The saucer factory is now closed. The industrialist will be prosecuted for "having set off flaming devices within 100 meters of the homes".

Bad day yesterday for the saucers in the Nord: an investigation, carried out at Bray-Dunes, near Dunkirk, allowed to establish that the craft seen in this region were jet planes from the Belgian base of Coxide.

"Flying tram"

A resident of Haubourdin however observed a "flying tram", and a child saw a saucer land at Cheny, near Lille; which left traces "like that, he said, of a frog man". The gendarmes examined these traces; they looked very similar to those of horse hooves.

Paris, which the saucers have neglected until now, was favored by an appearance yesterday afternoon. A flying disc, followed by a plume of smoke, flew at 4:30 p.m. over the Porte Dorée under the eyes of Mr. Allouis, cardboard salesman. Several other people confirmed his testimony. But a spoilsport suggests that the flying disc, which he also observed, was, it seemed, a flying wing.

One saw yesterday a good twenty saucers, cigars, fireballs, light globes, in Limoges, at Brive, at Azat-le-Ris and at Magnac-Laval (Haute-Vienne), at Forgès and Le Mazin (Corrèze), at Payzac (Dordogne), at Château-Chinon, at Nassier, in the Poitou marshes, at Vix (Vendée), at La Rochelle, at Albi.

Near Clermont-Ferrand, two saucers which, in passing, gave off a smell of nitro-benzine; near La Rochelle, another one that left oil stains when it landed in a meadow.

Finally, a technician from the weather station at Mans-Arnage observed yesterday morning at 6:08 a.m. two strong dark red lights.

- They were, he said, neither planes, nor sounding balloons, nor meteors. But I will not go so far as to claim that these are flying saucers...

[Ref. unn1:] NEWSPAPER "L'UNION":

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France at the Hour of the Saucers

MARTIANS (NOW HAIRY) CONVERSE WITH EARTHLINGS

But scientists are questioning these phenomena

[Photo caption:] With these pocket hot-air balloons that he manufactured in series using paper and tow, a middle-aged prankster, Mr. Jean d'Oliveira, a retired miner (in the inset), was having tremendous fun. These flying saucers greatly intrigued the people of the North, and Mr. d'Oliveira was hugely amused reading the accounts given by those who had seen his devices drifting with the winds, surrounded by yellow and orange reflections.

PARIS. - The file on the "flying saucers" is growing thicker. The mystery as well. Luminous craft - among them cigars, cigarillos, discs, spheres, etc. - appear suddenly before the eyes (increasingly less astonished) of witnesses who are for the most part considered reliable. But it appears that the Martians have a particular fondness for our country.

From these objects there sometimes emerge beings, most often frightening, who do not hesitate from time to time to converse with a few Earthlings before returning to their celestial homelands.

Thus, on Monday morning around 4 a.m., Mr. Pierre Lucas, a bakery worker in Loctudy (Finistère), who was drawing water in the bakery courtyard, suddenly saw in the night a craft shaped like a saucer measuring 2.5 to 3 meters in diameter. He saw an individual about 1.20 meters tall come out of it, approach him, and tap him on the shoulder while uttering unintelligible words.

The worker managed to keep his composure and went back into the bakehouse, where the stranger followed him. In the light, Mr. Lucas was able to examine the visitor: he had an oval face, completely covered with hair, and eyes the size of a crow's egg. The young man called his employer, but before the latter had time to come down, the stranger had disappeared along with his saucer, of which no trace was found.

This was also the adventure that happened yesterday morning to a good road worker from the Wassy region, who found himself in the presence of a craft beside which stood a small hairy man. The details of this report are given elsewhere.

While saucers are multiplying, scientists are examining these mysterious phenomena, but we are still far from being able to provide a reasonable explanation.

It is certain that several witnesses have been mistaken, but statements by qualified persons are often troubling.

The newspaper of Coulommiers publishes a letter sent by one of its readers, Mr. E. Farnier, a member of the Society of Civil Engineers of France, concerning a flying saucer.

In this letter, Mr. Farnier states that he saw above his property at Jouy-sur-Morin a large disc 8 to 10 meters in diameter, "turning in place while emitting reddish-violet glows, with a whistling sound somewhat like the arrival of a jet aircraft. The craft was about 400 meters high and hovered above me for more than 20 minutes. I therefore had," says Mr. Farnier, "ample time to examine it carefully. The craft then disappeared in the direction of Coulommiers."

In his letter Mr. Farnier specifies: "Former commissioner with the Aéro-Club de France and having served in aviation, I was not the victim of a hallucination, and this craft was not a weather balloon but a thick circular wing hovering in place and moving at very high speed while gradually gaining altitude."

Our planet - and France in particular - has undergone a veritable assault during the past twenty-four hours. Judge for yourself:

A PROPELLERED CIGAR was seen over Forges, 20 kilometers from Tulle, moving at low altitude without noise or smoke.

SEVERAL PARISIANS declared they saw yesterday around 4:30 p.m. saucers maneuvering in the sky over the capital. But air traffic was heavy, and mistakes are possible.

OIL TRACES were discovered at Nessier, in the Poitevin marshes, at the exact place where the day before Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau had seen a red saucer.

A CIGAR was seen near Berck-Plage by Mr. Georges Galand, a butcher from Rue, who was driving his car. The mysterious craft flew at low altitude and followed the national road for eight kilometers.

A TOP-SHAPED OBJECT emitting red and green rays was seen in Marseille by four people.

TWO DISCS, sometimes transforming into a cigar, were seen near Arles by several motorists.

TWO "FLYING TAILS" were seen by a beer merchant from Concarneau. They disappeared after ten minutes after launching a rocket.

A FOUL-SMELLING SAUCER (it smelled of nitrobenzene) was seen by Messrs. Bron and Marteauron of Clermont-Ferrand, who were "paralyzed"for a few seconds. Many similar craft were seen in the region, notably at Le Puy.

A THREE-LEGGED SAUCER reportedly landed in the garden of Mr. Montagne, an S.N.C.F. employee living at 13 Rue Ernest-Lavisse in Limoges.

FINALLY, DISCS, CIGARS, SPHERES, ETC., were seen at Quend (Somme), Grandvillars (Territoire de Belfort), Magnac-Laval (Haute-Vienne), Saint-Jean-d'Angély (Charente-Maritime), Perros-Guirec (Côtes-du-Nord), Nazin (Corrèze), Lézignan (Aude), Bergerac (Dordogne), Nevers, St-Etienne, Aurec-sur-Loire (Loire), Montbrison, and finally at La Rochelle and several neighboring localities.

[Ref. jve5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

233 -001.25721 45.85050 04 10 1954 LIMOGES F 001 A

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

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188) October 4, 1954 Limoges (France):

An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee. (35) (France-Soir, Oct. 7, 1954.)

[Ref. cpt1:] CHRISTIAN PEYRAT:

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CASE 188 J VALLEE

Investigation: August 6, 1970, by our correspondent Mr. Christian PEYRAT, 31 Rue Michel Chevalier, 87 LIMOGES.

The witness was returning from work at 11:30 p.m. and had just begun descending Ernest Lavisse Street on his Velosolex. Mr. MONTAGNE had just cut the engine when he noticed, in his courtyard opposite his house - about 2.5 meters from his home - a powerful light that he immediately identified as coming from a car.

At that moment, he was at a distance of 70 meters (but the object from which the light came was hidden from his view by a one-story house).

However, upon reaching his gate, he turned around and looked at "this car." He barely had time to notice, despite the powerful light that blinded him, that the car in question was rising into the air with a very faint whistling sound.

Mr. MONTAGNE had time to observe, before the craft took off, that it was resting on three legs.

Furthermore, according to the witness, the UFO was equipped with three powerful headlights: two illuminating his house, and the third directed toward the lower part of Ernest Lavisse Street.

I asked the witness whether he had found any landing traces. Negative answer, which is understandable since his courtyard was covered with gravel.

The color emitted by the headlights was very white, "comparable to magnesium."

The witness estimated the diameter of each light source at about 15 cm.

At the moment the craft took off, the witness entered his house, holding his Velosolex by the hand, set it near the entrance door, and rushed into the bedroom to wake Mrs. MONTAGNE so she could witness the phenomenon.

The time during which the witness saw the craft on the ground was about 2 seconds.

Mr. and Mrs. MONTAGNE were only able to observe the craft flying toward BRIVE.

Mr. MONTAGNE did not see the change in direction of the craft, as at that moment he was inside his house.

During the flight of the UFO, the witness noted that the light emitted by the craft seemed clearer.

Furthermore, the witness did not specify whether the lights were fixed.

The craft was at an altitude of about 1,500 m. The UFO had the shape of a cone with a side of 2.5 m.

The witness, having eye pain, had to consult a doctor.

On the evening of October 4, the weather was clear and the full moon was visible.

I must point out that this landing occurred during the night of SATURDAY to SUNDAY, that is, the evening of October 2, 1954, not October 4.

Attached: Newspaper photo

Sketch photo.

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[Ref. jve2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 4, 1954, an object landed in Limoges in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, a railwayman.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET ET JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Limoges in the department of the Haute-Vienne, on October 4, 1954, an object landed in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, an S.N.C.F [National railway co]employee.

The source is indicated as the Vallée catalogue, case N.188

[Ref. lgs1:] LOREN GROSS:

October 4th. (no known hour)

A railroad employee living in Limoges, a M. Montagne, claimed a strange machine had landed on his property. No other details available. 40.

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

3959: 1954/10/04 00:00 10 1:15:00 E 45:51:00 N 3331 WEU FRN HVN 6:7

LIMOGES,FR:STRANGE OBJ LANDS IN RAILROAD-MAN'S YARD:NFD:type unk:/LDLN#102

Ref# 30 FIGEUT[sic]&RUCHON: OVNI: Le 1er Dossier Page No. 116: ROAD+RAILS

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates in her catalogue that in 1954, on October 4, in France in Limoges, an "object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad worker."

She indicates that the source is "France-Soir, Oct. 7, 1954".

Monday, 4 October 1954

[...]

In Limoges (France), 1 object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee.

[...]

[Ref. djn1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

On this Day

October 4

[...]

1954 - An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee, in Limoges, France. (Sources: France-Soir, October 7, 1954; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216).

[...]

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

Monday, 4 October 1954

[...]

In Limoges (France), 1 object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee.

[...]

Jérôme Beau indicates as source: "France-Soir, October 7, 1954".

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan notes in his database that in the Haute Vienne on October 4, 1954, at an unknown hour, "an object lands in Limoges, in the yard of a witness. Sparse information".

Luc Chastan indicates as source: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 4 October 1954 in Limoges, France, "An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee. An unidentifiable object was observed at close range."

The sources are indicated as: Vallee Magonia Database.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 4, 1954 - An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee, in Limoges, France. (Sources: France-Soir, October 7, 1954; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216, case # 188).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded the case 4 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE II
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 4 1954.

LIMOGES (AISNE: FRANCE)

An object landed in the yard of railway worker Mr Montagne

Explanations:

Map.

Possible extraterrestrial visitors.

At 70 meters from the main witness and no more than about twenty meters from his wife, if this thing had been a helicopter, the noise would have been obvious.

Below: this is a 1954 "Vélo Solex":

Solex.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Limoges, Haute-Vienne, object, landing, Montagne, yard

Sources:

[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross March 28, 2003 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross March 16, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [djn1], [jbu1], [lcn1], [uda1].
1.1 Patrick Gross June 22, 2010 Addition [jve5].
1.2 Patrick Gross October 9, 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.3 Patrick Gross December 16, 2016 Additions [lgs1], [ubk1].
1.4 Patrick Gross February 6, 2021 Additions [ppe1], [lhh1], [prn2].
1.5 Patrick Gross March 27, 2022 Addition of the Summary.
1.6 Patrick Gross September 6, 2025 Addition [cpt1]. In the Summary, addition of the information from [cpt1]. Case day changed from 4 to 2. Explanations changed, were "Totally insufficient information."
1.7 Patrick Gross March 17, 2026 Addition [unn1]. In the Summary, addition of the information from [unn1].

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